Free to play; Pay to win

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  1. shishan

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    I wish Aoa will not be a game that anyone who has money wins. Many gamers hate mmorpgs because of this reason. I'm looking forward to my suggestion.
     
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    I'm pretty sure the FAQ says that it will not be P2W. Everything you can invest money in is purely cosmetic.

    edit: Okay, I just realized the FAQ don't say anything about P2W. Why is the FAQ only about questions I hardly see at all?
     
  3. Snoopu

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    It won't, and this has also been asked a lot. Don't know if this is located in the FAQ, so I won't blame you.

    But it won't. It will get things to buy with real money, but these will only be fancy stuff, no stats.
     
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  4. Shiki

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    Cosmetic only stuff is nice, but people aren't going to spend enough on that alone to keep the servers online.

    Needs a subscription fee for extra content, or paid expansions to keep it going. Think LOTRO. Buy the expansions seperately, or subscribe by the month to access all of them.
     
  5. Snoopu

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    Kirito and Asuna coesmetics, all I am going to say.
     
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    I'm preeeeetty sure cosmetics only will be more than enough to keep the servers live. If they make the cosmetic items tradeable in-game, that'll let people buy cosmetic items to gain themselves a decent amount of in-game currency.

    Basicly real money for in-game money.
     
  7. Shiki

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    You can only spend so much money on cosmetics before it gets boring. It's not a stable source of income because once a person has purchased a costume, that's it, they aren't spending anymore (unless to sell items on, as you said.)

    Now, maybe if costumes were 'rented' for say, a week, or more, I could see that being sustainable.

    You need an item that can only be bought with cash, and it needs to be an item people will buy frequently. Things like special HP potions and EXP Boosts are perfect candidates.

    If there is no profit, there are no servers. If there are no servers, there is no game.
     
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  8. Snoopu

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    Well, look at games as CS:GO and League of Legends, are they pay2win? No. Are they one of the most played games? Yes.
     
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    Thank you for all your comments. XD As I observe all (maybe not all) the mmorpgs are Pay to win. They buy strong items to win. It's unfair for those who are gamers that play all day to make their character strong. I hope our admins will not tolerate Pay to win for this game.
     
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    Like I said, look one of the 2 best pc games. They have a lot of things to buy with real money <skins n stuff> but the game itself is not pay2win, the skins won't make you better.
     
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    Exactly this. I know a kid who's blown $500 on League of Legends, for whatever reason. People WILL spend money on stupid cosmetic stuff.
     
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    You're thinking too small. Cosmetic items don't have to be just costumes. There's mounts, furniture for player homes, character customization stuff (some games take that one too far and make it so you just can't look good unless you pay, but it'd be alright if we could buy tattoos and things like that), titles.. things like that are all cosmetic stuff that doesn't affect gameplay at all, but the devs would still make quite a lot of money just from that. And I'm pretty sure I haven't even listed all the possibilities.
     
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  13. Snoopu

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    Fun guild perks? Or would that not work?
     
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    That would depend on what exactly you mean by "perks". If it lets you or your guild do something a player that doesn't pay wouldn't be able to do, then it affects gameplay and is most likely a bad idea. On the other hand, if it doesn't do that, then it should work just fine.
     
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  15. Snoopu

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    Ofcourse not things that affect the gameplay. Can't think of something that would not affect the gameplay though.
     
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    Copyrights maybe that is impossible
     
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    If they acquire the copyrights for SAO ($50k IIRC) then they can do that. If they can't get it, they'll have to change a lot of other things as well.
     
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  18. Kei

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    Yeah thats why that is Impossible :3

    "To avoid legal problems, we are not making an exact replica of the series"

    I wish they only mean the whole game not the Equipments :D
     
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    It's not impossible if they pay $50k for the rights. Pretty sure I established that in my last post. Not sure if the team is still planning on doing that or not, though.
     
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    Yeah its not impossible but think on their Ideas too they want it something original on some parts :)
     
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